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  How Precious Is A Governing Body Mole(Double Agent, 5th Colunm) To Sabatoge The Watchtower Organization?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i would suppose that there are many at very sensitive operations at headquarters and around the world that are moles or double agents a 5th column if you will that are in but mentally out and full of hated for the governing body.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fifth_column.

  a fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favour of an enemy group or nation.

  the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.

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  Half banana

  Presious?!
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  The destruction of "Babylon the Great"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read the talk outline #49 for this summer's regional convention entitled "future events that will require courage-the destruction of babylon the great.".

  the jdubs live in a comic book world.

  babylon the great is all false religious organizations and she is destroyed by those she seeks to control.

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  Half banana

  Relax folks! The Bible is great for quotations because a lot of people used to hear it when read to them in Church back in the day but as far as prophecy goes, it’s complete rubbish!

  As for the label “Babylon the great”, admittedly I haven’t researched its origins but during the Victorian period it was a great slur used by Protestants against “Popery”, as if to affirm a superiority of post reformation Christianity. In Episcopalian and C of E circles, it is very passé not to say un-ecumenical to condemn Catholics by this term today.

  However in the early centuries of the Common Era it was well understood that the Christ cults took their doctrines from earlier religious themes and at the time under Roman rule there was not yet the partisan hatred of sects who held differing viewpoints. What mattered then was whether you were observed as an individual to be ”pious,” which meant that you respected and practiced devotions to the Gods. The attribution of piety presumably implied that you were a conscientious and reliable Roman citizen.

  It was likely that in the second century the apocalyptic visions of an individual in a state of mystical passion were written down and attributed to John who records a religious harlot having intercourse with the kings of the world. It represented the beginnings of a new sensitivity to doctrine and temple affairs being contaminated by political influence. Note by contrast how in Judaism the political and religious were recognised as two elements of the same thing and this ideal still obtains there today. The cults wanted independence and no interference from Rome. It was as if for the sake of religious purity, i.e. godliness, that the Jesus cults would want to plough their own furrows and not have Rome or anyone else butt in.

  Yet perhaps it was due to a foreboding of the inevitable Imperial Roman monopoly on religion which made the writer envision harlotry to describe what he thought was a flagrantly wrong relationship? Whatever the impulse, the writer represented a constituency which wanted a sense of doctrinal and religious sanctity, thinking that the invisible deity would rather have this kind of worship.

  Whatever the true origins of the expression of “Babylon the great” it represents religious anxieties of people eighteen hundred years ago which certainly have no meaning, prophetic or otherwise, for people today or relevance to real life in the present world.

  There is no such thing as false religion anymore than its opposite, true religion, they are both fictions of the Watchtower cult imagination. Neither is there a meaningful “Babylon the great” today , it cannot be destroyed since it doesn't exist.

  To keep them alive in religious discourse is just more stale sabre rattling for the purpose of mind control by the out dated, irrelevant governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They have been flogging this dead horse for more than a century!
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  Why people fall for scams, what happens after.

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i couldn't figure out where to put this, so...... after seeing the sell off the properties in england, kingdom hall grabs etc.

  i thought of the jw's that would passively go along with it.

  what will happen when they realize all of their donations, wills, loaning of money and property has simply been part of a scam?.

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  Half banana

  JWs are generally decent people but not very rigorous in their thinking.

  They seem to be unduly open to persuasion, or perhaps unduly undiscriminating about who they allow to persuade them.

  (People susceptible to scams)

  JWs are not familiar with critical examination of information, if they like the person who sells the idea--they will buy it. Everlasting life is yours if you slave for JW org for the rest of your life-- except you never, never get a reward, you just perpetuate the dream of a reward and direct money to the JW organisation.

  Your points are good DoFP, a JW is likely to be a subject of serial scams because he or she does not understand how to make a critical analysis of facts. With JWs, it goes this way: "If it's in the Bible, it's good enough for me".

  For goodness sake! The Bible was written by religious fanatics, high on emotion for the purpose of controlling . . . and the governing body of JWs use that coercive language of the Bible to manipulate their flock today.

  Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses!
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  April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.

  she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.

  in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.

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  Lol Wake me!
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  Memorial Attendance ???

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all, anybody any anecdotal or actual idea of how attendance numbers went this year ?.

  there are hints that it is well down, but is it ?

  and if it is, will the borg stop crowing about the attendance as they always have ?.

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  Funny thing was that by joining the Watchtower you were supposed to be able to defy death!

  It looks like JW deaths of true believers in the Western world will be the death of the JW org.
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  April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.

  she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.

  in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.

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  Half banana

  @ Millie, How else did JW president Joseph Frankly Ratherflawed live so high on the hog without close association to Alfred Heath and his family, the owners of Coca Cola? How did anyone run a sixteen cylinder Cadillac during the depression?

  HQ now being short of cash and who rarely stray from their roots in terms of methodology, perhaps have had a light bulb moment and with the drinks company historical connection in mind are using product placement as the way forward for their desperate cult?

  It is in my opinion that the remarkable and unexpected windfall of cash given to the Society in 1919 not only gave it the chance to continue since it was on the verge of financial collapse but thereby fostered the notion of 'divine appointment' in that year.

  In GB mentality as conceived by Russell: Watchtower financial success = divine blessing.

  Like Coca Cola, image and money is paramount, the product will sell as long as it is saccharine.
  
  
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  Memorial Attendance ???

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all, anybody any anecdotal or actual idea of how attendance numbers went this year ?.

  there are hints that it is well down, but is it ?

  and if it is, will the borg stop crowing about the attendance as they always have ?.

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  Freddo from your statistics, I think that it must be your wicked presence in the congregation that is preventing the holey sprite from keeping the numbers up!
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  "Escaping The Watchtower" Trailer

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojqswew8pva.

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  Half banana

  Your trailer looks very promising and I want to thank you both so much for your activism in helping to expose the blind, dogma driven hurtfulness of this cult.

  I would be interested to know how you might optimise the publicity so as to reach active JWs?
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  What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.

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  Half banana

  The Bible.
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
  2. current

  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  Occam's razor is the tool needed. Why look to aliens to explain what is already explained by palaeontology?